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ms. megyn is next. i'm'reilly and the spin stops here. we are definitely looking out for you.
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one out of every ten applications had problems and they think the number is higher in the states. our reporter
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pressed the agency in charge of the exchanges. for a solution to this mess. people don't know. they think they've got the coverage. they don't have coverage. insurers got a form that didn't have names. it can't call the person to tell them. and here was the answer. >> what you're not saying everyone should call? you're not suggesting that? urging them strongly? despite the fact you're talking about a one in ten error rate going forward? >> i encourage any consumer with a question about the plan selection choice to be able to contact the plan of their choice to get additional information. >> any consumer who has a question? how about every consumer should have a question? they don't know who it is. and a resident fellow, good to see. i mean, anybody got a question, if you enrolled in health
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care.governor, you better have a question. we don't know who one out of four are who they think he, but don't. >> the motto should be don't trust. do verify. you can't be sure of just about anything we know administration will admit to some errors. which is what it did this afternoon. >> they did not want to release numbers and the press was saying let us know. how many are we talking about? and they came out and said it's one in four october, november, and it's one in ten, december. since the relaunch. this is all they're willing to admit tochlt whatever forms have gone wrong, now, sort of hear some response saying you know, only way you're going to get a fix is the
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american people better do yet another thing to ensure they have coverage? >> they're trying to power through mistakes and evasions, delays misrepresentations. then into the hands of the private sector partners supposed to keen up the mess. >> do we have reason to believe they can somehow fix this? we've been told insurance companies who are working to try to set this right, to the extent they can identify people, are trying to do it by hand and so on? but we're up against a deadline here for people who lost coverage unexpectedly thanks to the law. now, are not going to have it on january 1st unless they can now, they lost their coverage. but they think they have coverage so they can figure
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this out and get back and have people reenrolled by december 23rd. do we think that is going to happen? >> breaking that down this, is supposed to be a state of the art system. so first, you may have to mail in the application. then, insurer going have to check by hand, then place a phone call to find out whether anything is accurate and have a conversation. this is not state of the art and short of what private sector web ice -- based system is like. >> they're asking companies to just guess what subsidies enrollees are going to gechlt tom, thank you for being here. >> you're welcome. >> we're also seeing a series of new reports raising worries about patient access to doctors.
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under obamacare. we told you about this last night. some say they do not want to and cannot afe afe afe aferd afford to. what can we do about this? i know you're not on the clock now. all right. what is the beef about the reimbursement that lays you to say doctors don't want to join exchanges? . >> i won't say it's a beef. very to say people have to make a decision whether to participate in the plans when exchanges offer participation they should would you participate? a lot of doctors were skeptical. we train to take care of patients. in order to take care
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of patients you have to be able to keep doors open, pay overhead and staff. when offered rates through exchange that's don't cover that expense, that means that not only can't we see new patients we can't stay open for patients we're taking care of we train to take care of all patients. whether exchange patients or commercial patients. exchanges have not been as open as they should have been. we're trying to work near california with covered california. to get that transparency so we know as physicians can we participate? patients should be getting accurate information. they're not. >> i understand that you gave an example about medicare paying about $76 for return office visit for medicare visits. in california the reimbursement is lower. >> no. that is a misstatement in the original language put out
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today. the, what i was trying to explain to them is that in my area of california san diego, medicare pays roughly $76 for return office visit. medical pays $24 and the exchanges are offering payments in between those two numbers and in cases close to the medical number. reality is that $24 doesn't cover the cost of taking care of a patient. that is why there are problems getting doctors taking care of medicaid patients we cannot have such low rates for patients moving out of the ppo market or individual markets. >> and incentive to participate. what will happen is that californians find no choice but to join a program under the exchange. >> well, we're dealing with what is called narrow networking because physicians making a decision whether or not to participate, only contracting with a smaller number of
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doctors. if you put enough people in those plans and don't have enough doctors, you end up with a bottle neck meaning you're not doing what this is all about. improving access to care. >> a question. covered california claims over 60,000 unique physicians available through the covered california plan. do you buy that number? >> i really don't z we've been trying here at california medical association to understand numbers i can tell you in my community i can't find a specialist yet signed up with them in this a contract. some plans, blue shield are access are under ppo contracts. that may be what some numbers are coming from.. >> we're going have another look. thank you. >> coming up, has main stream media declared war on republican women? what research team discovered
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this week. and up next, new evidence of the white house with a truth problem. the kelly file investigates a major about face of president obama's own family. right after the break. don't miss it. >> white house said in 2011 there is no record of them ever being there. that it's -- how do you make that mistake? ick with innovation. stick with power. stick with technology. get the new flexcare platinum from philips sonicare and save now. philips sonicare.
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now, they've done a 180, the
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kelly file investigation. trace? >> when the president's uncle was arrested for drunk driving in 2011 not only did we learn he's in the country illegal but learned he's related to the president he was asked if he'd like to make a phone call but he said i think i'd like to call the white house white house says there is no record of the president meeting his uncle. not only testifying he met the nephew but barack obama lived with him. now, white house says there is no deception they couldn't find evidence to support the president met his uncle. it's unclear what evidence they were looking for, even though omar obama was mentioned in the book. today,
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press secretary pinpointed the problem. listen to this. >> nobody asked him in the past the president said he met omar obama when he moved for law school and stayed with him until the apartment was ready after that they saw each other once every few months while the president was in camebridge, after law school they fell out of touch. >> in case you missed it jay carney says the president never asked if he met his uncle the white house says the president has not seen his uncle in 20 years. uncle omar was re-a.loued to remain in the country because of his good moral character. the white house says they did not intervene in that hearing. >> all right. joining us now, former speech righter for president george w. bush. mark they say nobody ever asked him they started information in the newspapers like boston globe
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without having asked him according to the white house. do you believe it? >> i don't buy that. the president's uncle nshg country illegally is arrested for dui and says i'm going to call the white house, nobody goes and tells the president about this? or discusses it with him? just that just a stretch. i don't believe the explanation f true it would point to a worse problem, is that nobody brings this president bad information. it's a hard conversation to walk into the oval office and say to the president your uncle was arrested for dui. also thoord say to the president the the obamacare web site doesn't work or to say you've been telling americans they can keep their insurance but it's not true. have you to stop. either they're in the having conversations or having them, and telling, false information. either way there is a culture there that encourages
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dishonesty. >> if what they're saying is not true it's a bald-faced lie. if he told them i know him and lived with him before law school it's a bald-face lie. needs to be saying white house press office won't tell us bald face lies? >> i hope it's not a bald-faced lie. it means nobody is telling the president these things nobody told the president the web site doesn't work. nobod told him after said 30 times you can keep your health care mravenlt nobody went to tell the president that is not true. it's part of the job to tell the president bad news. >> is this a story? >> it's a story because it -- on its own it would be a one day story. but in the context of a series of lies this, president, an administration that lied to the person people about benghazi. they lied about
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obamacare. now, we learn they lied to the american people or misled the american people about the president's family. and so, you've got a pattern of misinformation coming out of this administration. and at times, when the president himself admits he's fighting to get credibility back. a majority of americans don't believe him. so if you wants to regain his cred yiblth this doesn't help. >> mark good, to see you. >> thank you. feel better, megyn. >> the doctor wanted to put a video scope up my nose we declined. that i'm going to have more of these. coming up, has the main stream media declared war on republican women? up next what one team discovered
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from the world headquarters of fox news it's "the kelly file" with megyn kelly. >> there was a vicious attack on sarah palin but the resignation
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didn't get a lot of attention. the media research center did some checking. when rush limbaugh made a coent about sandra fluke, a former law student who testified on the subject of birth control the main stream media covered it 32 times in two weeks after the comment was made. when former msnbc host martin bashir said sarah palin was a good candidate for disgusting punishment, guess how many time it is networks covered that? joining me now brent bozell. he performed the study. how many times did they cover it? >> it's not hard to count them. it's zero. no coverage whatsoever. it's so bad that you don't want to say what it was. i will tell the audience if you don't know, imagine the most disgusting thing imaginable. that's what he said should be done to sarah palin. it was 100-fold more serious
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than anything rush limbaugh ever said about anyone in 30 years on his show. yet 32 stories, which is a tsunami on rush limbaugh, nothing. crickets about martin bashir. >> you're telling me none of the big three covered the dust-up at all? >> no, no. they didn't cover it. they don't cover the ongoing -- there is real miso gyn y on the network. when you have them calling sarah palin an imbecile, throwing out insults. the media that gives us lectures about decency are nowhere to be found because it's conservative women. >> is it about conservative women? or is it about sarah palin because she's an alienating figure to many. they feel she give s as good as she gets. so you have to take even the
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most vile attacks. >> it's both. she's the uber conservative woman. she's the north star for attacks as far as they are concerned which is why he would say something. the interesting thing about what happened, this wasn't an off the cuff remark. this was a prepared, produced set-up piece. it begs the question not why did martin bashir resign. it took him 19 days to do it. why wasn't he fired the metrodome he did it. where is comcast's apology to sarah palin and to the viewers who had to undergo that? were the national media covering that? it's because sarah palin is a woman. miso gyny is okay if you're a conservative woman. bigotry is okay if you are a catholic organization. the things they preach are acceptable if it's their political position.
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>> speaking of msnbc, talking to chris matthews last night and talking about the divisiveness in the country. listen to his take on it. >> the american people are good and decent. sometimes we get divided, partly because our politics and our media specifically tries to divide them. and splinter them. >> our media specifically tries to divide people. >> what's happened is that some in the media -- not many, but some in the media have concluded this fiasco of obama care is simply indefensible, especially when the man lied dozens of times to the american people. there are some this the liberal media, some liberals saying it has to be covered. that's his reaction. how dare you. >> do you think he's ticked off about the negative -- >> he's had 100% sycophant
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coverage. the wheels are coming off. some of his most ardent supporters are saying, you have gone too far. >> thank you, brent. >> hope you feel better. >> thank you very much. i have my tea, my honey, all sorts of things. this problem may be earning me more money. we'll explain it to you in 15 minutes right here. coming uh, a well known washington whistleblower has new information on what he called controversial hires by the obama administration. wait until you hear who is now going to be basically embracing immigration policy in this country. an exclusive next. plus, just out for gift givers, the baby chair with a built-in ipad holders for infants. is this a good idea? [kevin] paul and i have been friends...
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a first on "the kelly file." an everyday mom details the heart wrenching decisions her family is facing after finding out that the cost of her insurance coverage may rise more than 300%. trace gallagher spoke with her from los angeles today. >> her name is julie dalton. she spoke at a congressional field hearing about the affordable care act. she was emotional, compelling and, yes, congress was listening intently. dalton told lawmakers in 2009 her family dropped insurance because of cost. in 2011 they decided to take the president at his word that if you like youren plan you can keep it. they got a plan and they liked it. unfortunately as millions of americans have learned, it was not grandfathered. listen to julie.
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>> up until then i wasn't aware that there was such a thing as a grandfather clause. if we had known that we would have tied to comply with that. >> herlan she was paying $375 a month for was cancelled. her new plan? $1,180 a month, an 800 dollar plus increase. they cannot afford it. then they learned they qualified for subsidies. instead of being relieved she was angry. >> my husband had to make decisions just so we could take subsidies. that's not what we want. we find it abhrent that we would be self-reliant only to burden our children and grandchildren to pay for something that two months ago we were handling just fine. >> doesn't want to have anything
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her kids have to pay for later. it would cover only $250 a month. the plan would be over $900. arizona extended the individual plan so the daltons get a reprieve until 2015. then what? listen. >> we don't have any options. my husband and i are in middle age. we are going to be needing health care more and more. we have been blessed up until now. we haven't needed a doctor. but going forward, we will. now what? >> at one point during the hearing she started to cry and a congressman said she almost made him cry. megyn. >> all right. thank you. that's your "the kelly file" exclusive. a well known washington whistle blower has a new report about the background of a bunch of attorneys just hired to manage immigration litigation for the obama administration.
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jay christian adams is a former doj attorney and pajamas media contributor. they hired new immigration enforcement attorneys at the department of homeland security. why are you concerned? >> becse they turn to radical open borders organizations. they turn to groups funded by the tides foundation. mexican-american legal defense fund, latino justice. all of the demonstrated organizations with hostility toward immigration law are now the source of dozens of new lawyers inside the department of homeland security. this administration knows the personnel policy. if you don't want laws enforced go hire lawyers who don't like immigration laws. >> be specific. can you name names? >> we do. the article names dozens of lawyers with their photographs that we obtained the biographical information for.
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let's talk about two. the first the jennifer lee. jennifer lee came from an organization that was militantly open borders. when she was there they published a pamphlet to give to illegals entitled "what to do in the event of a raid" and it gave advice to people here illegally how to behave if they come calling. now jennifer lee is working at drk hs. this organization was hostile to dhs as a source of new employees. there is an attorney named maura wee. she worked for the aclu immigrant rights project. when she was there she wrote condemnations of dhs because they were collecting fingerprint information of people they captured at the border. she said you shouldn't collect this information. the reason the information, of course, is important is because
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people just cycle through. get caught, sent back. opposing fingerprint information is a radical policy that affects the open board rs. >> these attorneys they just hired, were with wh they necessary? did they have vacancies that needed to be filled? >> that's an interesting part of the story. they didn't need to hire this many people. they were going to originally hire a few. the chief lawyer at the dhs component, a man named steve legompski wanted to hire dozens and got special approval. that's important because this unit will have the power to effectively suspend immigration laws that if congress doesn't pass amnesty or comprehensive reform, these new lawyers will have the power to just let everybody in the united stat that asks. whether it's asylum or other people who over stayed their visa. they can short circuit deportations. >> it's a potential way too
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achieve a forum of soft amnesty without the actual deal. how long are people in office for? do they go when the president goes? >> no. they are permanent, career civil service jobs. these are government attorneys making between $75,000 and $155,000 a year. the next administration is stuck with them. they can't do anything about it. they probably wouldn't have the skill set or guts to do anything anyway. they are borrowing in this administration. the personnel, the policy and they are changing the personnel to change the policy. >> fascinating. we reached out to the dhs for comment. they came back and said their hiring standards adhered to stringent protocols to ensure an impartial process and said neither political views nor other inappropriate factors are considered in this process. jay christian adams, good to see you. >> you, too.
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>> coming up, zero tolerance goes to a new place when a fifth grader is suspended for shooting an imaginaryarrow at a classmate. like the sign for virgo gets you suspended now with expulsion threatened. that's after the break. plus, we are hearing that there is a growing change in how men are speaking, how they are talking. you've got to hear this. we have evidence of all the guys on the show last night, even trace and others. we'll let you hear it and we want you to let us know what you think. are you hearing a change? let me know during the break. ♪ man, i feel like a woman ♪
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an imaginary arrow at a classmate. joining me now, kelly goss, rick gurnell and a criminal defense attorney. we have hot topics. that's the first one. it's the sign for virgo basically. now if you flash it you get suspended and maybe expelled. >> ridiculous. here's how ridiculous it is. if we are going to punish the kid for pretending to shoot a bow and arrow let's ticket the parents for parking their unicorn in a fire zone. the kid is 10. we encourage them to use their imagination. >> it will be on his permanent record. >> i'm so grateful i'm not growing up in this age of political correctness run amok. i would have been busted for the wond woman uniform because it was too threaten iing.
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>> that's true. this kid faces possible expulsion. there is an appeal being made but they have not reversed the decision in any way. >> we need to say the name cough man. she's the principal. this is ridiculous that you would punish someone. you're punishing someone for imagination. we should be celebrating when people want to do something that doesn't have a gun. >> he didn't hurt anybody. he didn't have a weapon. he thought about one and made a motion. that's what it is coming to now. let's move on to a story raising eyebrows. this baby seat. i have a 4-month-old. that's about the size you are looking at. it's the newborn to toddler activity seat for ipad device. i guess if you don't want to speak to your child. >> i love this.
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>> you love it? >> love it. >> why? >> i don't want to ban anything. i think this is fantastic that mothers would have something that can be really easy for their child to do. i mean, what's the difference between this and the little thing that hangs over them and they can play with it? it's still interactive. >> go ahead, kelly. >> those of us who are adult are on screens too much. it's really bad. messing up our sleep patterns, how we communicate. the idea that we should be starting younger, we should use less of this stuff the, not encouraging younger people to use more. and for kids under 2 the american academy of pediatrics says it's bad. >> they don't like screens or tv either unless it's fox news channel. but the thing is when you put the little toy in front of your child on the car seat he pulls it, hits it, looks at it maybe thinks about it.
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but then he looks out the window. looks at mommy. this is all look at the big, you know, mickey mouse or whatever. does it take away the opportunity for imagination? >> am i the only nonparent on the panel? for me to have a kid, i would need an app for that. >> we'll talk later. >> we have the technology. why not have the children -- >> you know caring parents will use it sparingly but negligent parents will sit their kid in front of this. >> some parents need it. >> going back to the first story, imagination is a great thing. i was reading a study that said boredom is good for kids. i became a writer in part because i was left to my own devices to come up with stories. >> can you not have imagination watching an ipad? you can have better imagination than the toy hanging there. >> how so? >> it's more interactive. >> you're talking about an
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infant. >> much more interesting than a hang ing stuffed animal. >> if i'm in the car with the child and he's crying i start singing or do something to interact. >> now you're a distracted driver. >> my child needs me. now it's turn the channel, honey. turn on little einstein. you'll love it. next. there is a study out that modern men are starting to uptalk. that's when you rise in pitch at the end of sentences. we went through the show last night and pulled a clip from every man who was on. watch. >> they really know nothing about this law. >> it's not nearly enough. >> now can't even build a website? >> so happy going to put you in jail. >> how brilliant was that? what does it mean? he's starting to become a valley
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girl? >> identifying with women way too much. >> who did the study? linguist amanda richard presented it at the acoustical society of america. not a member? >> did one penny go into this? >> they said their study bust it is stereotype that those who speak up talk ask questions instead of make statements. we had the debate last night. >> no, we didn't. >> no one cares. >> this is the hot issue in congress. >> they are trying to find out whether men are losing the authority in their voices because ay study said ceos who speak in lower voices without the up talk. >> i would agree with that. >> same goes for women. maybe not today. you have one of the perfect
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female voices. it's not pitc. not too screechy. today it's sexy. but in general when you are getting sold something, for example. here's what i see the most. you are getting sold a car, a house and a man is talking to you. i see them trying to talk more like they think women talk with the up talk. that irritates me. >> do you remember when they came on the scene and there was talk about whether kirsten gillibrand's voice would hinder her career? >> those with deeper voices have a distinct advantage over high-pitched peers. lower pitched voices are linked to dominant behavior which i couldn't help but think of this little chest nut when i read that. >> what makes you dominant and me submissive and who died and made you scientist in chief?
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maybe i am dominant because i have a lower voice. thoughts? >> i agree. >> you were in that clip. >> thank you. hopefully it results in a bunch more money because the study says it will. panel, thank you. >> thanks. coming up, dramatic developments in an alleged hate crime targeting a bi racial high school football player who the police now says is the prime suspect. and on "hannity" at the top of the hour. >> johanna had her last brain surgery a month ago. while i was in icu with her i was trying to get ahold of the insurance company. i called them and the first call they said it was determine nated as of december 31. we're aig. and we're here. to help secure retirements and protect financial futures. to help communities recover and rebuild. for companies going from garage to global.
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dramatic developments in an alleged hate crime targeting a biracial high school football player. you won't believe who police say is the prime suspect. trace gallagher has the story. >> reporter: in this case the 13-year-old football player isaac phillips quit the team and left school when the family the filed a police report saying someone spray painted a racist message on the back of the house saying knights -- which is the football team -- don't need -- and the n-word. the family blamed the football the players. here is the dad. >> there are two, three bad seeds, you know, that's ruining this the. it is not the whole team. like i said, it falls on leadership. if you allow certain things to happen, don't be surprised when things escalate. >> even before the investigation
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the high school took immediate action a, cancelling the remainder of the football season. listen to the superintendent. >> we have no tolerance for racism in any form. we do what we can to eliminate it from our schools and our community. >> there was even a town-wide vigil against racism that the phillips family spoke at. now the family is suddenly silent after the police chief said the football team was not responsible for racist graffiti and showed up on the doorstep with a warrant. the cops took four cans of spray paint and said the evidence led to the house. the mom was called a strong suspect, now a person of interest. court documents say the mom made false statements and asked the police to stop the investigation but police say the investigation will go forward. the football season is gone forever. megyn? >> that's unbelievable.
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pretty harsh result. i have to turn the page because i want to give you the chance to response to this. >> they really know nothing about this law. >> it's not nearly enough. >> now can't even build a website. >> so happy they didn't put you in jail. >> what's with the uptalking? >> that's the way you compel people. that's how you get your point across, as they will tell you in journalism school. they say, who is the guy with the high voice? the high voice? >> i would [ male announcer ] here's a question for you:
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